Printing / Stationery / School Supply - Indian Buy / Import Trade Leads

[Buy] Printing and Allied Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 04' 2008
Dear Sir, We require the following printing allied machines: Single colour 1. Color metal p ...

[Buy] Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 28' 2008
Dear All Poly silicone 1 side and clay coated silicone coated 1 side CIF Nhava Sheva, Dubai, Sou ...

[Buy] Kids Articles #8211; Garments, Toys and Books

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 27' 2008
Hi, Kids articles - clothes export quality, hosiery material , toys good Brands #8211; fun school ...

[Buy] Empty Cartridges and Laser Toners

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 20' 2008
Buying once used empty cartridges and laser toners of computer printers . Will highly appreciate i ...

[Buy] Hot Stamping Foils

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 18' 2008
We require hot stamping foils that will use on MDF board we want regular supply of our own designs. ...

[Buy] Offset Presses

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 19' 2008
Dear Sir, We are interested in buying the following offset presses: 1. Color metal perle 127 or 12 ...

[Buy] Thermal Paper Rolls

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 27' 2008
Jumbo thermal paper rolls. Sizes 406 mm and 424 mm. Six thousand meters. ...

[Buy] Balloons Printing Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 13' 2008
Balloons printing machines to print 10000nos., per shift 2colours 2sides and all around print If s ...

[Buy] Printing Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 08' 2008
Good and latest model with low budget of AB DICK manual printing machinery for our offset printing ...

[Buy] Offset Perfector

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 08' 2008
Dear Sir, Wish You a Happy New Year 2008 We are interested in buying following machines: Singl ...

[Buy] Mini Offset Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 19' 2007
Mini Offset machine with good condition in Tamil Nadu We are the master printers in Tuticorin ...

[Buy] Used Beam Dying

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 17' 2007
Wanted used beam dying 50-100 kgs. cap. Sending us your catalog by email or giving your website a ...

[Buy] Ryobi Mini Offset

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 07' 2007
Two Ryobi Mini Offset Model:2800CD 12*18 480N 15*20 We are looking forward to your favorable and ...

[Buy] Laser Toner Products

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 25' 2007
Our requirement is laser toner powder of 200kgs., OPC drums OEM color hp models assorted 2000pcs ...

[Buy] Used Printing Machine 4 Colors

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 22' 2007
Used printing machine 4 colors. We need a machine for all type of printing. As we are a new media ...

[Buy] Large Format Offset Press

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 12' 2007
Dear Sir, We have a customer for planeta large format offset press In Paper size 102 x 142 cm. ...

[Buy] Writing and Printing Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 07' 2007
We need 300-400 MT of Writing and Printing Paper every month ...

[Buy] Web Offset Press

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 06' 2007
Dear Sir, We are urgently looking for a now running good condition 1985~1995 Komori system lr-438 ...

[Buy] Promotional Gift Articles for Pharmaceuticals

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 31' 2007
Want promotional inputs/ gifts that can be used as corporate gift or brand gift which can improve ...

[Buy] Laser Toner Powder and Inkjet

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 26' 2007
We want to buy toner powder, bulk ink, printer parts Please feel free to send us your quotation. ...

[Buy] Dot Matrix Printer

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 25' 2007
Dot Matrix Printer Any Company If you are in a position to supply, please inform prices and ...

[Buy] A4 and A3 Copier Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 09' 2007
We want to purchase A4/ A3 copier paper. Please give your lowest quote on CIF - Bangalore, India. ...

[Buy] Used Ryobi Mini Offset Printing Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 06' 2007
We require very urgently two numbers of used Ryobi Make Mini Offset Machine ...

[Buy] Rollin Blanket for Printing Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 03' 2007
Rollin Blanket for printing. Agent. Different sizes requirements ...

[Buy] Used Sheet Laminating Machine, Paper Cutting Machine, Printoram Offset Machine and Reel Slitter

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 20' 2007
We need used sheet laminating machine, Paper cutting machine, Printoram offset machine Reel Sl ...

[Buy] Carbonless Paper Booklet with Plastic Bags

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 14' 2007
We require carbonless paper booklet similar to airline ticket for pathology sample receipt with one ...

[Buy] Indelible Ink/Marker

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 19' 2007
We are in need of 25000 Indelible ink marker pen for pulse polio programme, if you can arrange supp ...

[Buy] Single Color Offset Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 07' 2007
I need Single color 12X18 If you are able to supply, please give us price, terms of payment. We l ...

[Buy] Sequence Punching Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Mar 21' 2007
We r importer of sequence punching machine and dye from china we also import 150 micron holographi ...

[Buy] News Print and Art Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Feb 25' 2007
We require standard newsprint 45gsm 70 cm width or jumbo reels and also LWC paper starting from 50 ...

[Buy] Used M R Renegade Printing Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Feb 22' 2007
Wanted - We are interested to buy a good condition used M R Renegade printing machine from Delhi. ...

[Buy] Self Adhesive Paper, Art Paper and Chromo Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 28' 2007
We are interested in self adhesive paper, art paper, chromo Paper etc. We shall purchase a minimu ...

[Buy] Wide Format Solvent Printer

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 19' 2007
Wide Format Solvent Printer We have the computer training Institute and also deal with Photograp ...

[Buy] Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 09' 2007
We require the following materials: 1. FBB 2. WF Uncoated Paper 3. Fluorescent Paper 4. LWC 5. ...

[Buy] Wood Free Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 25' 2006
We have a requirement for Wood free paper of 3500 MT in Bangladesh. Pls. quote best possible CIF ...

[Buy] Models and Charts

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 23' 2006
We need big quantities of Charts and slides printed only in English for export. We also need micro ...

[Buy] Daily Use Products

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 22' 2006
I am running educational institute and a restaurant We are looking to buy daily use products Qu ...

[Buy] Thermal Chalk / Thermal Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 28' 2006
We are looking to buy thermal chalk to mark on automobile rubber seals before putting into oven. ...

[Buy] Multipurpose Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 27' 2006
A4 format, wt 80gms, Brightness >100%,qty:8000reams per month. specs: powder free, resistant to a ...

[Buy] Stationary Items

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 22' 2006
We want all stationary items such as papers, pens, pencil, gum, files etc., at the competitive pri ...

[Buy] Foil Stamping Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 17' 2006
We require foil stamping machine to print company logo on plastic products ...

[Buy] Business Cards, Packaging Materials and Food/FMCG Products

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 28' 2006
Looking to buy products for exports Including printed material eg business cards, packaging materi ...

[Buy] Old Typewriters Only Godrej Prima Model

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 22' 2006
Need Old Typewriters Only Godrej Prima Model Minimum 10 Machines We are in this field past 45 ye ...

[Buy] Old Godrej Prima Typewriters

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 20' 2006
We want Old Godrej Prima Typewriters in bulk if anybody make call in mobile ...

[Buy] Chalk Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 01' 2006
We are the manufacturers of stationary items. So we require chalk making machinery. Please quote f ...

[Buy] Coated Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 31' 2006
Coated Paper both art and Cromo in all finish size 20\\\"X30\\\"23\\\"X36\\\" 80 to 270 GSM ...

[Buy] Duplex Board Sweet Boxes and Pamphlets

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 27' 2006
We require 5\\\" x 7\\\" x 2\\\" duplex boxes for ladoo with four colour printing. Quantity is 5 l ...

[Buy] VAGH Resin for Manufacturing Polyester Film Printing-Inks

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 23' 2006
Sub: Import of VAGH Resin for manufacturing Polyester Film Printing-Inks. Dear Sir, We are int ...

[Buy] Stationary Exercise Book

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 17' 2006
Inquiry for Exercise Book, Pen, Pencil, Sharpener, Eraser etc. Only Indian Manufacturer are Invi ...

[Buy] Mould for Pencil Sharpener

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 15' 2006
We require mould for pencil sharpener. Any one who can make new mould for pencil sharpener may c ...

[Buy] Silicone Coated Paper-Double Side

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 11' 2006
We need Silicone Coated Paper for the following specification 80 GSM Map litho paper, Coating on ...

[Buy] Tin Printing UV Inks

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 31' 2006
We require all the Primary colors of Tin Printing Inks UV curable. ...

[Buy] Standard Newsprint

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 18' 2006
Looking to buy Standard Newsprint Reel width 70 cms and 45 gsm, reel dia 100 cm core dia 7.6cms ...

[Buy] Rubber Stamps

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 15' 2006
We are interested to buy flash stamp mount and related material. We are importing self inking sta ...

[Buy] Stock Lot Paper Foil Poly in Rolls

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 15' 2006
We are looking for stock lot paper foil poly up to 115gsm and chromo art poly, up to 65gsm. Pleas ...

[Buy] Soft Flow Dyeing Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 01' 2006
Looking for Soft flow dyeing m/c with the capacity of 400 kgs above with the northern side 16\ ...

[Buy] Papers Rolls and Sheets

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 16' 2006
Dear Concerned , kindly let me know whether you can manufacture and supply paper in the form of ro ...

[Buy] Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 20' 2006
Stock Lot/Prime Paper/Card Required in bulk quantities If you can supply please send us your best ...

[Buy] Paper Stock Lot

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Mar 26' 2006
Sir, We are the stock lot paper importers in India. We import c1s 60-90 gsm ,c2s 60-180gsm , lwc ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Papers

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Feb 11' 2006
Dear sir, We require all kinds of paper including Kraft paper, self adhesive paper, Thermal paper ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 23' 2006
We are the leading paper importers in India. We import c1s 60-90 gsm ,c2s 60-180gsm and lwc 50-80 ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Computer Printer Spares

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 22' 2006
We need computer printer spare parts such as Teflon sleeves, presser rollers, pickup assembly, R.D ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Craft Linear Paper and Boards

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 08' 2006
I am interested to purchase craft linear board 120 to 140 gsm real wreath or printed one side wast ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; ID Card Printer

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 31' 2005
I need an ID card printer with a camera to take photo and print plastic ID cards of students and ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Lab Equipments/Glassware for School

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 26' 2005
Dear Sir/Mam, I have a contact in UK who is looking for the lab Equip./ glass wares as he has so ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Educational CDs

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 26' 2005
We are retained by a New York based distributor of educational CD #8217;s who is interested in Indian / ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 23' 2005
Dear Sir Please let us have your best quotes, for 1. Paper Various Types Please contact for de ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Thermal Transfer Paper for Caps and Ceramic Cups

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 12' 2005
I require thermal transfer paper for cap and ceramic cup printing can u suggest the best suited pa ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Offset Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 19' 2005
We need a cheap Offset Machine for Offset Printing If you can supply above machinery, please emai ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Batch Printing Machinery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 10' 2005
Dear Sir, We are in a requirement of batch printing machine on labels, printed/laminated bags, box ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Promotional Gifts

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Nov 04' 2005
We are looking for Corporate Promotional Gifts from China or high quality European material espe ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Ring Binder Files

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Oct 19' 2005
Dear Sir, We are into the business of Automation. we need different types of Ring binder file for ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Computer Related Books

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 25' 2005
Send the list of computer related books with fob prices as soon as possible Thanks ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Canon Xerox Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 11' 2005
I want Canon Xerox Machine 6060 Model We are looking forward to cooperating with you. Your early r ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Thermal Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 07' 2005
We are looking for Thermal paper size width:11cm for our Particle size Instrument Shimadzu data ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Balloon Printing Machine

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 05' 2005
We are buyers of Bulk Balloons from various companies in the world, and we are looking for printin ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Plastic File, Folder and PP Document Case with Pocket

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 03' 2005
We are the no.1 general stationery distributors in Kerala. We are in search of wholesale manufactu ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Polypropylene School and Office Stationery/Gift Items

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Sep 02' 2005
Interested in your product polypropylene School and Office stationeries and Gift items Pls send t ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 20' 2005
Dear Sir/Mam, It is great pleasure to introduce ourselves as leading importers and distributor ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; White Board Sheets

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 10' 2005
Dear Sir I am looking for magnetic / non magnetic sheet. I am manufacture of Felt Boards Waitin ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper Stock Lot

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Aug 07' 2005
We need all type of stock lot of Paper like Art Paper, LWC, SBS, Colour Board Woodfree Etc for I ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Newsprint Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 27' 2005
We require following Newsprint Paper 48.8gsm of 650x970mm size. Required 30,000 reams per month ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Industrial Batteries, Medicines, Stationary and Confectionery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 10' 2005
Batteries for industrial use Please mention your conformance to tests quality parameters in you ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper and Paper Board

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jul 02' 2005
Writing Printing Paper 45-80gsm Duplicating Paper 56-80 Manila Board 100-250 Colour Printing ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper Notebooks

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 24' 2005
We require 100/200pages, outer cover 250gsm board, Inner sheet 60gsm printing single line Size:19 ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Viskovita Sponge

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 23' 2005
We are interested in importing Viskovita sponge made in Germany used in offset printing. pls send ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Glazed Newsprint

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jun 16' 2005
We require 25mt of glazed newsprint in 52gsm 70cn reel width and 100 cm reel dia ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; VCD - Entertainment and Educational Titles

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 29' 2005
We are looking to buy VCDs of Entertainment and Educational Titles We are distributors for VCD/DV ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 26' 2005
We are looking for handmade paper and the products related to it for our use. Interested manufact ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211;Ceramic Mugs and Office Stationery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : May 03' 2005
We are event management company for office use we require few item like Mug, note pads, Pens, No ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211;Writing Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 30' 2005
Please give me writing Paper Rate of Ruled paper Size 67X81 54 gsm Cream wove, Deluxe Cream wov ...

[Buy] Wanted -Dustless Chalk for Ceramic Steel Green Chalk Board

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 28' 2005
We want to purchase white, colored chalks for writing on ceramic steel green and other black board ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Stationery

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Apr 15' 2005
We require office stationery like files, folders, note pads etc. for a U.K. buyer. Please send you ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Thermal Paper Rolls

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Mar 21' 2005
We are looking to buy 100000 Thermal Paper Roll Per Year Potential suppliers are requested to con ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Photocopy Paper

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Mar 18' 2005
We are looking to buy following photocopy paper 70, 75 80 GSM with brightness varying between 8 ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Guar, Printing Gum and T.K.P.

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Feb 08' 2005
We require Printing Gums in bulk Let us know please if you can cooperate with us. We would like t ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211;Empty Cartridge

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 17' 2005
We want to buy ink/laser cartridge, Bulk quantity requirement of ink/toner cartridges. Pls. kin ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Wet Strength Papers

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 13' 2005
We are looking to buy Wet Strength Papers Any quantity in stock lot Please reply with complete ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211; Marker Boards

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Jan 13' 2005
Dear Sir/Madam, We are dealing with School Timer for about 5 years. We have our clients all ove ...

[Buy] Wanted #8211;Art Material

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:17:14 -0500

Country : India
Posted On : Dec 21' 2004
We are leading importers of art material, like pencil, color pencil, wilso Nutwon colors other ...